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Q) Do you think Donald, Jr. spent too much time harping on the fact that Holly came up with one idea for the room?
A) I should have added that Holly also wanted to paint it that seafoam green that everyone hated. You know, she chose that color. But you know what? I don't know. The Boardroom is a tough thing to sit through. You learn a lot and it's interesting that it's the way it is. I think it was a lot of hard work, but it was interesting. I'm pretty straightforward. What you see is what you get. And there's a lot of two-sided things going on, and I guess after a while, it just got to me. But I don't know. I can't judge the way other people behave. I can only look at myself.
Q) How did you end up getting involved in the Celebrity Apprentice to begin with this season?
A) I was talking to Mark Burnett and I signed a contract with Mark Burnett Productions. And they said, "Hey, we have this show, the Celebrity Apprentice," which I because there's so much going on all at once for me, it's really hard to sit down and watch TV. You know, like while I was doing the Apprentice, I had this whole big MAC campaign thing going on, and I had the album that is actually coming out in June 22. And so I had to plan that. Like it's not - I don't have like just one thing. So I never watched it. And, you know, I found it interesting that, you know, it was an interesting gig. I've never done anything like that, and I thought it was interesting. I liked the fact that Donald was there with his kids. I thought that was really, really sweet, you know? And I got to meet Sharon again. I hadn't seen Sharon. I got to reconnect with Sharon Osbourne, who was awesome. I thought that everyone was very interesting. It was an interesting group of people.
Q) Have you spoken to anyone else since filming the show?
A) Nobody's spoken with Bret, but we've all been kind of - I don't know about anyone else. I was very concerned, you know. The guy is fighting for diabetes, and what happened to him happens to people with diabetes. So, you know, he really lucked out. It could have been a million times worse. I mean everything happens for a reason, but he lucked out. And that's one of the things that you say, "Oh, wow. That happened for a reason. He is okay." You know, but he has this disease which this kind of thing can happen to you. I was talking to people at Mark Burnett going, "How the heck is he? Oh my God, what happened?" I didn't really understand what was going on, because I was working. I was doing like ten million things. I have this Memphis Blues album coming out, and I was making sure that I had everything sorted with the, you know, with the busy work that I have to do in my real life. And I just all of a sudden in the corner of my eye saw this thing about Bret Michaels, and it's like what the heck is going on? And so then they said it was serious, you know, and, you know, my whatever -- prayers, good thoughts -- were going. I kept trying to picture him well and okay. He's a good guy, and, you know, it's unfortunate that he has this disease. But that's exactly why he's fighting for it.
Q) what is the most important thing you've gained or learned from being on the show?
A) I've learned, you know, because I have to work with a lot of different people, just not like those particular people. But I learned a lot. I learned that I would never - there's certain things. I still would keep my demeanor of being very straightforward. That show got a little two-sided, too, you know, like backstabby, talk behind your back all the time. That was hard for me to deal with -- dealing with people constantly talking behind my back like that, and not talking to me. That was, you know, it was an interesting experience, but I think that it was a good experience. I think that, you know, it's hard work, but I learned a lot, you know, just watching everybody. I had fun. Sharon Osbourne is such a blast, and she's so, so bright. And, you know, and I thought that Bret was really creative -- really creative, and upbeat and always positive. And everybody had something about them that was good that you could - that I learned from. You could learn anything from anybody. So I thought it was good. I get to mention my charity, which is the True Colors Fund, and bring to light the issue in America right now, the civil rights movement for the gays in America who have no civil rights. Ironically, even as I worked and learned more about what's going on with the Human Rights Campaign and because True Colors raises funds to bring awareness to the civil rights struggle in this country. We work with groups like the HRC, which is the Human Rights Campaign. We work and raise money for CenterLink, which is an outreach program which helps the gay youth in the country, and the True Colors House which is opening in New York, which helps the gay youth that has been disenfranchised -- thrown out of their houses you know, as kids and young adults, into the street and have no home. And so that's a place for them to re-enter society and, you know, go back to school or get an education -- become a healthy, normal, you know, gay person. And so we are. That's what we do. We also launched the Give a Damn Campaign: I give a damn about civil rights for everyone, do you? And so that's what we do. I was grateful that I could go on Channel 4 and fight for civil rights for the gay community, and bring attention to it, and go to Washington and show that, you know, the hate amendment. The hate crime law was amended.
Q) What is next for you?
A) I am going on tour. I'm going on tour this summer. I went to Memphis in January, and I recorded in Memphis with the original old guys, the guys from Stax, the guys who recorded on all those old records that we listened to growing up and learned how to sing. I did a blues album. B.B. King is on it, Allen Touissant, Ann Peebles, Charlie Musselwhite and Jonny Lang, who's not, you know, but he's a young guy, but he's a fantastic bluesman. And I'm going on tour. Charlie Musselwhite will be with us for a while. And we're doing television shows with Allen Touissant and B.B. King will be on one of them with us. And it's kind of very exciting, what we're doing right now. So that's what's been coming up. That's why it was a little hectic for me at the Apprentice, because while I was doing that, all this other stuff was being planned and going on, and the big MAC campaign -- the Viva Glam campaign. So there was a lot, you know? I was juggling. But I am going on tour. I'm doing a whole House of Blues thing this summer, and we're going to figure out where we're going to shoot a show in Memphis, to celebrate and shine a light down on Memphis.
Q) Things were pretty contentious last night at the end of that episode. How do you feel about Holly? Do you think she'll win?
A) she wouldn't think twice of throwing anybody under the bus. But I think Bret is a very good contender to win. Bret kind of lives what's going on with him, as we all do. You know, everybody has their cause and has lived through. You know, I'm not diminishing anybody. I thought all the charities were really very moving, listening to everybody. I think that because of Bret Michaels' illness and the fact that he's recuperated and he's coming back -- that kind of determination is pretty great. And I, you know, I don't see Bret Michaels, you know. Me? I don't know. I'm a straight shooter. I don't do the behind-the-back thing so well. So I just - that's not who I am. I think that - but I think Bret Michaels has a pretty good shot of winning. Even when he wasn't there, he really came back and tried hard and, you know, worked hard.
Q) Do you regret being on the show at all?
A) I think I learned a lot about how I work, about the things that I do. I mean while I was on the show, I was doing ten million other things at the same time. You know, I had that whole MAC campaign, the Viva Glam campaign, going on at the same time. We were planning the Memphis Blues album. It was a lot. It was a lot of stuff. And so it was a little hairy for me at times, but, you know, that stuff was going on before the Apprentice. The Apprentice was kind of like it wasn't happening, it wasn't happening, then it was happening, you know? So it was, you know, in the middle of everything else that was going on. And the MAC campaign, the Viva Glam campaign, was going on way before that.
Q) Would you do another reality show if you had the chance?
A) The reason I heard about the Apprentice thing was because I was working with Mark Burnett. We were talking about doing a reality show. And I actually signed with Mark Burnett to do a reality show. And then he said, "What about this Apprentice thing?" And I was like, "Apprentice? What is that?" Because, you know, honestly a day in my life is really truly like where are the dancing bears, or where, you know, Friday I was laughing thinking, "Where the hell are the cameras?" Nobody would believe this. But, you know, you just have to keep going.
Q) So is that still a possibility then? A reality show about you?
A) Like in half the states you could just be fired for being gay or transgender, or anybody. No matter what kind of job you do. Or you can, you know, one out of every five hate crimes is against the gay community. And every, you know it happens a lot.
Q) When will we see your show? Do we know? Do you know when that will air?
A) No, and I don't know when, because we've been - I don't know. We're just in the beginning of it.
Q) Do you think Holly and some of the other girls were jealous of you or had something out for you?
A) Well the sniping behind my back, after a while, really got to me. It really did. Of course you could feel it. I mean, you know, I was looking for her at the Bed, Bath and Beyond. You know what I mean? She disappeared. But in her mind, I disappeared. So it was - listen. She still laughed once in a while. She's capable of having a good time. She is a different kind of person, that's all, than I am. she's dedicated to her cause. But the things that she says about other people and their causes is kind of like, that's not true, you know. But she'd say anything
Q) Do you think she has something against your cause?
A) I can't judge her. I don't know.
Q) Because that was brought up at the Board Meeting last night.
A) Oh, that was weird. Yeah. That kind of angered me, but I thought that was really directed to me to anger me. She was just like saying anything. And then I didn't say just anything. So I felt bad, you know? I can't go there. I just can't go there.
Q) How do we find out more about your charity?
A) There's a True Colors Web site and the Give a Damn campaign, which people could go on and find out. I'm trying to get the information, but my Internet is out for some reason. So I unplugged everything. I'll plug it back in and see if it goes back on. But the Give a Damn campaign is on the Internet, http://www.giveadamn.org, or I think that's what it is. And we want people to share their stories and raise awareness about giving a damn about human rights, about everybody having human rights, not just some people.
Q) I noticed last night Trump brought up the fact that it was a running theme that you were hard to work with. Why didn't you bring up the previous week when Summer brought you back to Boardroom and Trump let you go, because the failure wasn't anything that was your fault?
A) Well that's been the theme for Holly to work up a case every time. No matter what it is, I'm difficult. I'm difficult. I'm difficult. I don't know how difficult I was. I was calling the truck for her. I was getting her, you know, walking next to her with a little pad. So I don't know why that was a big - yeah, I do. You know, she was playing the game. That's what the game is, I guess, for her. I don't play that way. I didn't want to have anything to do with that. I got mad. But, you know, I just, you know, and her thing is always, "Well you didn't care enough about your charity." You know, because it's not what she does. Not everyone wants to be like her.
Q) What did you think of Holly taking credit for your red room, but not being fired for losing the task for the things like the apartment being too cluttered or the seafoam green paint?
A) Oh, that was her. And I kind of didn't want her to use that furniture from that store, because it was too - it just looked like office furniture, you know? One piece is okay. But not all the pieces, you know? But, whatever, you know. I think I wasn't going to get into that. I just didn't want to go tit for tat. I just can't. It's not who I am. So, you know, that's going to bite her in the butt in the end.
Q) What were you expecting before you got in there?
A) I thought it was going to be like nine to five, but it's not. It's like you go into hair and makeup at 4:00 am. And you come back out at like eleven, twelve o'clock at night. And then you get up again and do it again. And it goes on for six days a week. So it was a little bit of a shocker. Because we do 18-hour days as, you know, entertainers, you know, when you do press or if you do TV. Like on Wednesday I do a big MAC day -- Viva Glam day for Viva Glam. Because I'm one of the Viva Glam girls. So I get up at 4:00 am, or whatever time you need to be ready for, you have to back up three hours. And then you get ready. You go and you do your press or whatever that day consists of. And sometimes it'll go from dawn to dusk or past that, you know? But then after you finish your task, you might take a day off, you know? Or you get one day off where you could just do nothing. But it was a little full-on. You know, but that's also it, too, because they want to see what happens when people unravel.
Q) Aside from Sharon, you seemed to clash with the women right from the beginning. How do you think it would have been different if you were on the guy team?
A) I don't know. I don't know. I think that very conservative people who think very linear get freaked out by people who don't think that way. I think I see things in a big picture. And I do do tasks, you know, I guess I do tasks like I concentrate on this, I concentrate on that. They talked about my time management, which I thought was a little odd. Because, you know, well it doesn't matter. That was her technique to wear me down. And she did in the end. She did. But that was, you know, for what we have to do on this side, like when I was doing the Apprentice, I was also doing the Viva Glam campaign. I was also planning for the Memphis Blues album. I was also on, you know, there was like ten other things going on, you know? So it was talk about your multi-tasking. I mean I guess everyone was doing that. I think Bret was doing that, too. He had a lot of stuff going on. And Bret works so hard, and then he collapsed. But, hey, you know, he got a second chance. But, hey, how about that picture in People magazine? Is that funny?
Q) Why do you think you got fired yesterday over somebody else?
A) Because I didn't want to participate in that kind of thing anymore with Holly. It was too much. There sometimes is a lot of backstabbing, and I guess that's what. Because I like to be straight ahead and I couldn't do it anymore.
Q) Do you feel that there was some favoritism from Donald Trump towards you and Sharon because you are so entertaining?
A) I didn't think that. I worked pretty hard, so I don't know. I worked very hard and I think that there were some people that were very stubborn, very small-minded and that was how they operate. And I didn't want to go there, and I didn't think that I was doing that. I always gave 150%. I didn't see Holly lift a damn thing.
Q) You left to go meet President Obama. What was it like meeting him and the whole experience?
A) That was awesome. And the fact that that bill, that hate crime bill, was amended was a great thing. And the way that Judy Shepard contacted this - I'm trying to get the names. My Internet is down and it was like a year ago almost. But the way that the mothers contacted each other, and the way that these young men - well, the way these men died, how much hate that was. That's hard to get over. And for them to reach out together and, you know, help each other through. That was, to me, very moving, and that we would finally come to terms with that hate should not be tolerated anymore like that -- just shouldn't be. I was very moved. And also it showed me that you can really accomplish a lot by reaching out and standing up and saying something. And giving a damn about the place you live and contributing. And saying, "No, we can't tolerate this. We're an educated country. We have to help each other. We can't do this anymore." And when we did the True Colors Tour, we worked with Judy Shepard and we showed people what was going on. And there was a concert and you laughed a lot, but there was information for you. If you wanted information, it was there for you. And you got to participate in your own life. You can't be angry about things and want to be included, if you don't include yourself. So that's what the whole messaging was about. And going to see Obama, and going to see how taking an initiative like that really changes things. You really can change things. You don't have to be sitting by the sidelines. You can actually be active. We live in America, and just the fact that we have President Obama makes me hopeful for the future. Because we did create a change. People want a change. So I think that that was one of the highlights of my life -- to go to the White House. I don't do stuff like that. And he knew me. That's the other thing. He knew me. I told him, I says, "I heard you opened for Lady Gaga." And he said, "Yeah, but she's stole your moves." It was very funny. I think he's got a great sense of humor, but he's also a very bright man.