Interviews

Aaron Ashmore, Hannah John-Kamen and Luke Macfarlane – Killjoys

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Q) So what I want to know is, is there anything at all that you can kind of tease about what Level 6 is and kind of maybe what’s going to happen to D’Avin if he’ll become part of that or if he’s just going to escape?

Luke: I remember being very concerned of it. Oh what are we going to do with my character? Finally, I’m in Level 6. So I think what we can tease is that we learn a lot more about what a Level 6 is. And that it’s not as simple and it’s not as good and evil as we originally thought. I think I’ll also tease by saying it’s what makes the Level 6 is that becomes a big story point, the actual physical sort of makeup of a Level 6, that becomes a big clear point.

Q) We know it’s quite an action-packed show. Can you tease some, if you are allowed, that are not too spoiler, if you could tease some upcoming moments that maybe fans can look forward to?

Hannah: Well, definitely I think this season, what fans definitely need to expect is the world is a lot bigger. And we just discovered Arkyn and with that comes really, really awesome new and exciting characters.

Aaron: Yes. I think a huge part of this season is — yes, obviously, new characters. But also really expanding on some of our supporting characters, which I think is awesome. Because I think we have great — Pawter, and Alvis, and Pree are three that we really, really sort of get to see more background. And we really interact with them sort of in our mission and stuff. So I think that’s a pretty exciting aspect of the show moving forward, is really bringing forth some sort of exploring these other characters that I think are really interesting.

Q) Can you talk to us about whether there’s a certain theme to what goes on in Season 2?

Aaron: Maybe holding your family together.

Luke: Yes. That’s a really good answer. Yes.

Aaron: The circumstances that are sort of happening in the Quad are sort of tearing it apart. And I think on some level – even though we sort of explore that the team sort of being pulled apart in the first season and this world sort of being torn apart, we really continue with that and sort of what’s that going to look like and how is our team going to stick together through all these insane things that are about to happen to them.

Luke: Yes. Yes, that’s right. I think we learned a lot last year what it means to kind of love each other.       Now, we sort of know that we have loved each other, so it’s now what we can bear, how much weight we can take on, how much responsibility, how much we can understand each other and what everybody needs as individuals, and so stay together. Yes, because we challenge each other a lot, the three of us this year.

Q) As far as your experience in filming Season 2, how did it feel different for you guys than Season one?

Luke: I am going to answer this question right off the bat. I just want to say (some of very) we –it’s wonderful from an (intro), it’s wonderful. We had a really, really tough time in our studio this year. So I’m just going to fell with that. We have incredible audio people. But when we — one of the really challenging things this year was our studio space was really loud, literally. We had to hold a lot of roles. We could hear compressors, and saws and drills through the wall. In that regard, the other — so this year was, it was snowing and it was cold and it was a winter. The first season was in a summer. So it changed, I think in a really good way, the outdoor experience of the show, because all of the sudden the world that we have in is cold and rainy and wet and snowy, whereas the first season it was green and (ration). So that I think were two very distinct things that changed the filming experience this year.

Aaron: I think something that was sort of different for me, or I found different is, the first season we were all getting to know each other. It was totally brand new, this world, these characters, and even like our relationships with each other. And this season, we were sort of past that. We already knew, we knew each other now, we were friends. And I think that in a lot of ways it was even more fun in the second season because all that getting-to-know stuff and all that were sort of out of the way. And we are already friends, like from day one of the second season when we jumped in. So I find it to be a lot of fun. And yes, even more fun than had during the first season.

Hannah: I think for me what was different to me this season was actually kind of story-wise, without giving too much away is, I remember last year working a lot with Aaron and Luke and with Bellish, and with Nora. But then this season I know that there’s just — working with different people for a long period of time, because of the way the story goes. So yes, as I want to say who and what and when but definitely that was different to me.

Luke: Very true.

Q) I wanted to ask you guys, usually when a series does reach year two, there is — you mentioned that some of the supporting characters kind of have their day. But do we dwell more into the three of you and what’s going on with you, and maybe a little bit more of your past and who you were, that kind of thing?

Hannah: Definitely, this season is — we went a lot together last season. And this season we will or will be doing our own thing actually. And Dutch was absolutely — we’ll be seeing so much more of her past come to life and that’s the real battle that Dutch herself and a struggle with what’s good and what’s evil and — yes. I mean, definitely you will be seeing so much more of Dutch’s past.

Aaron: Yes. And I think there’s always going to be character development with the three of us. You know, like that will just be what it is. But again, you know, there — we need to sort of develop the world bigger and these other characters. So there’s definitely a lot of that as well. And as Hannah was saying, I mean, Dutch is our main girl, right? Dutch is our — the focus and the focal point and what sort of brings all of these characters together. So yes, we definitely get a lot of really cool — really, really cool back story and layering with Dutch, which is, yes, I think people are really, really going to find it interesting.

Luke: Yes. And I think in the classic second season of the show, we meet the characters, we understand the way they function, how they operate, and the second we make the world bigger. And we’ve done that for sure in the second season.

Q) Can you tease a little bit about how your relationship pans out with Khlyen this season?

Hannah: So with Khlyen and Dutch, it’s really obviously very complicated, conflicted relationship, because he’s the guy that he just wants to hate. It’s really easy to hate Khlyen. And obviously at the end of Season 1, he’s taken D’Avin away. And we know that he has. But definitely with Khlyen, there’s going to be more of an understanding of why he’s done what he did — why he’s done what he’s done in the past. And I think for an audience member as well, it’s going to be a bit harder to just see Khlyen as the bad guy, I mean there’s more understanding of his character as well.

Aaron: And nothing seems cut and dry this season, does it? There’s lots of sort of complex things going on. And yes, and I think you’re right, like that’s exactly what that relationship is, it’s very complex. And Khlyen, we sort of saw sort of only one side of him or one – in the first season and we see so much more in the second season. And yes, it’s — again, it’s a very, very interesting to see that stuff unfold.

Q) If Johnny was the parent of a child in the Killjoys world, what would be the biggest thing you would be afraid of for them?

Aaron: Have you seen the Quad? It’s a terrible, terrible place. Everything (or may be) — we’re surrounded by assassins and civil war and everything. Lucy is not baby-friendly. Yes, we have laser guns all over the place so we would have to seriously baby-proof Lucy. I think there’d be a lot to be afraid of. But I also think that Johnny would (risk) some really fun little toys and stuff like that for his baby with his little – he put little things together and have the baby well pacified while they are out on missions. Or he could build some cool little, you know, armor structure that he could like mount the baby on its chest and go like some sort of a warrior father or something, I don’t know. It would be fun, I think. I think it would be fun to see Johnny do that.

Q) You guys have some of the best action scenes. I’m just curious about, like do you have to learn a lot of choreographies?

Aaron: I learned none. And Hannah learned none.

Hannah: I learned a lot. Well, to be honest, like when it got — it’s a bit crazy actually kind of learning the fight. And luckily, it’s quite naturally to me. But you know, there’s so many — there’s so many cool, awesome badass fights that happen this season. And there’s actually the first girl-on-girl fight this season as well, which is really, really (timed). But I do remember fighting outside and it was in the snow. And I didn’t know my fight yet. And I remember I had light lit you and the camera is rolling, like, “Right, Hannah. You do like left, kick, turn around.” I was like a (damn). And then yes, the fight kind of happened. It miraculously happened. So yes, there was — it was really fun, actually, it’s really — it was a challenge. But you know, when you achieve it, it was cool.

Luke: I think Hannah is, you know, a little modest in a sense that I think something that the writers and the producers discovered this year was like, “Actually Hannah has a real gift for the fight choreography. She picks up really quickly.” And they asked a lot of her and she always delivers. And like honestly this year she has longer, more badass fight. It’s really been impressive. I’m going (to show) because my fight (experience).

Hannah: Luke is really good.

Luke: So I’m like the grunter and the muzzle. And you know, there is this one episode where I have to do something quite (balladic) for reasons that would be revealed later. And yes, I had this very complicated like stick thing that I have to clean and spin and twist and do it very elaborately. And there was a group of reel of about, you know, 50 takes of me just going look, “Oh God! I can’t.” “Oh my God!” like I was dropping. And then when I actually saw the thing get together, I look like I know what I’m doing. But just rest assured, I really don’t know what I’m doing. And that’s like our (kind of thing). Hannah has lots of options.

Q) Because it’s a very physical show, what is harder for you to do, the physical aspect of the show or dealing with the green screen working against nothing?

Aaron: We actually do a ton of green screen to be honest with you. Do we guys like — I’m trying to think when we and Lucy obviously looking at the cockpit and stuff, there are some green screen shot. But it’s not — we don’t do over-the-top stuff. They do a really good job of building sets and going to locate some of the stuff. But it’s not — we don’t do over-the-top stuff. They do a really good job of building sets and going to locate some of the stuff

Luke: What was also interesting too because the effects artists are so gifted like, I was actually just looking at something today, and something (levitating) very close to me in my eyes are tracking it. And because they do their work so well it looks like my eyes are actually tracking this whole thing that wasn’t there. So like a lot of it, the success of it has to do with the work that they do afterwards, honestly. But the physical stuff, I actually always find really quite enjoyable myself. It’s a very different party here, the brain, the body. You don’t have to think as much as disturbed reactant. I always find the struggle is just to get this much out of my head as possible. So I really like the physical stuff a lot, personally.

Hannah: Yes, I love the physical stuff. The physical stuff is amazing. But yes, I agree with Aaron and Luke that the effects is amazing. But we haven’t like a massive ton of it. But when we do, when we’re in the space, it was actually, it was really fun.  It kinds of brings back like you’re a kid again, like just hanging, just using your imagination. So yes, I like it.

Aaron: And the directors do a great job of sort of explaining to you what it’s going to look like and what’s going to happen.      And it’s not like they just leave you to hang out there and have no idea. They definitely fill you in and — yes, like Hannah was saying, you just use your imagination. We sort of do that all the time anyways in our jobs. So yes, it’s fun.

Luke: And we try to thank them pretty much as often as I can

Q) Can you describe Season 2 in one word?

Hannah: I’m going to say steroids, as it hits like then made even bigger.

Luke: I would say family.

Aaron: I’m going to say complexity.

Q) I was curious whether this season’s script plays whether (subverts) sort of science fiction conventions? I noticed a little bit of that on the first one, so I’m interested to hear.

Luke: Very much so. You guys can answer that. But this is to me, what comes to mind is, you know, I think we referenced a lot of like this sort of aspect of the 70s. And that’s always been part of the show. I’ll just roll out like (sandbox) as a possible sort of thing that we see this year. So I think (subverts) or makes (whatever), kind of have like an ironic appreciation for, definitely is part of the (translator) of this show this year, yes.

Hannah: Yes. I definitely agree with Luke. I agree with that kind of 70s and the business kind of coming definitely with this season. And I know it’s still a lot with some of the costumes when even when you kind of look back into the past, very much mine that kind of look and change in certain costumes. So yes, definitely.

Aaron: And Michelle, our show runner is so — is such a fan of sci-fi. And I think you know, sci-fi from the past, so I think it’s inevitable that she’s going to be bringing a lot of those references and a lot of that stuff into the show, but then also spinning it in a new way.

Luke: I would also, you know, say, in the humor aspect of the two, there’s this kind of self-awareness of it the way we speak, the kind of, you know — the kind of tough little sort of quips that come out of our mouth. They definitely revert back to some TV from the 70s for sure.

Q) Everyone is asking, so is there going to be any more D’Avin with Pawter this season?

Luke: No, D’Avin Jaqobis does not hook up with Pawter this season. But it’s something that will unveil itself. Yes, it will become clear and it’s an important, I think, part of D’Avin’s growth, is that idea of sort of hoping on to things. So it’s a very good story.

Q) Now you mentioned earlier that this season is going to be action-packed. Is there a particular episode that’s maybe more action-packed than others?

Aaron: Actually the first episode is really action-packed, like there are some amazing action sequences in it. But I think most of the episodes have quite a bit of action. But definitely the first episode back is insane, I think, as far as action goes.

Hannah: We set the valve very high in this last episode and it seems like every single episode just gets really bigger and wilder with all the action. I always notice that as well in our (read-throughs) just how the excitement, and yes, like a real action-packed, fun-filled episode, there’s got mini-episodic things where there are so much going on. So I have to say, yes, pretty much every episode.

Aaron: Yes. There was no easy episodes, like guys like feel laidback. It was all like fast-paced action-packed stuff throughout.

Luke: We, Aaron and Hannah and I would always joke like, “This is episode where I really did like Lucy a good cleaning.” We get to stay on that tip and rub her down. It’s very organized with big closets. I also think the action comes in all kinds of different — you know, this year we have, you know, a lot of this the kind of combat. We have, you know, some done sequences. We have some spaceship on spaceship sequences.

Aaron: Oh, my favorite.

Luke: So action in all different shapes and sizes. Yes, exactly.

Q) I noticed that in Season 1 there were a lot of episodes that seemed to be self-contained. And then by the end, it all kind of tied together very neatly. Will it be that same kind of flavor in Season 2?

Aaron: Well there’s definitely a warrant-based episodes in Season 2 but I think that now that we sort of locked into a bigger story, and there’s the sort of bigger mystery about what’s going on, obviously, that’s what sort of driving the second season. So I think it sort of much like the first where — the first couple episodes, we definitely have some more warrant-based things happening. But it really does sort of ramp up again like the first season, I would say. That was my sort of take on it.

Hannah: I think as well. What — because things this season will be revealed. You’ll kind of forget about them until you actually find out the bigger meaning behind it in like a later episode. So yes, it does tie together. But in between that, there will be a warrant-based episode. And what we find on the warrant actually will play much bigger later on. And that kind of — yes, it all does tie in to a little bit more like that this season, I find.

Aaron: Yes, definitely. I think one of the great thing as the watcher or the show, as the viewer of the show is that, because the story is so dense, there really isn’t anything that’s kind of not significant. Pretty much anything that is on it, the character, sort of a prop, align like it does get to let it back in, and that’s just the density of the show.

Q) What would you guys attribute to the (feasibility) to pull fans in and then keep them coming back week after week?

Aaron: I definitely think it’s the characters that sort of draw everybody in. Because I think the sci-fi stuffs is amazing. And if you’re tuning into sci-fi, that’s good looking. You want that sort of futuristic or sort of not quite reality. But I think if the characters in the story line and the dynamics between them aren’t interesting, you’re not going to get a loyal fan. People aren’t really going to be drawing in. I think that that was what the writers and what Michelle did really well, is creating a dynamic between these three characters and all are supporting characters that’s really dynamic and interesting to watch. It’s not just the action that keeps people coming in. I really think it’s the characters. As like an actor, it’s like, I love these characters. I love all of them. I don’t just love the character that I play, I love all of them. I think that they’re all so interesting and well-rounded, and all sorts of different colors of them. And I think that that’s what people respond to, that’s what people watching the show respond to as well.

Hannah: They kind of go against the grain as well. Like especially with Dutch and Johnny’s friendship, platonic friendship, is you don’t really see that in shows. When there’s kind of two guys, one girl, it’s kind of inevitably always like a love triangle, or as well also happen between Dutch and D’Avin, and then kind of trying to find a way back to being friends again. I don’t know it’s kind of this complex thing between the characters, I think, as well. I’ve seen a massive response from that as well.

Luke: Yes. I think anything that gets bringing people back is that they sort of want to know these people be part of their — be part of their little community.

Q) You shot the whole season. Is there a particular episode that you’re really excited to see, visualize on TV once it’s ready and everything?

Hannah: For me it’s Episode 7. That was the one — that was written by Michelle. And I think there’s an amazing one line, isn’t it. And that would be interesting to look. So I’m actually just really excited to represent D’Avin because it’s so — the lines, some of the lines that are in there are so funny.

Luke: I’m looking forward to five because it was very much a John episode and it’s just always nice to see your fellow actors work. — I think I only work like maybe a day-and-a-half in that episode because it was John’s episode and you know, it’s a great location. I heard all these great scenes. So it’s kind of like — I wanted to see how it all turned out because it’s John’s big episode.

Aaron: I was going to say as well, is that, like this year we definitely work apart from each other quite a bit. So I’m excited to see — well, I’m really excited for the finale this season too. I think there’s like some really cool dramatic big stuff that happens obviously in the finale. But I’m excited to see all the episodes because we definitely get to work apart more this year. And it’s really fun to watch the scenes that you weren’t a part of because you got to see your friends, your fellow actors, you could see the story unfold. And of course you read the script, but it’s really a completely different thing to watch the scene put together and see how everybody is playing things all the dynamics are happening. And yes, so I’m actually excited for the whole season just to see it. We put a lot of work into it. And we all, I think, really love the show. And so for me, at least, I am so excited to see it. And we don’t get to see very much of it either. You know what I mean?          Like we see maybe some rough cuts here and there, points, and we see stuff from what we’re doing AVR, but we’re sort of in the dark as the final product, the music, the editing, the takes it shows, the special effects until it airs as well. So I’m really excited to just to see the whole thing put together.

Q) I wanted to ask about, in the finale last season, Johnny did the blessing, he sort of fake the blessing of that woman. And he didn’t tell the guy that he wasn’t a true believer but the guy sort of insinuated that maybe he was. Is that going to come up sometime this season?

Aaron: No. I’ve actually have lots of people asked me questions about that. And a lot of interests sort in that element of monk and the religious stuff. And I will say that the religious stuff and the monks play quite a big part in Alvis in the second season. But no, John does not go for monk, although that would have been interesting. But he doesn’t really go down that road. But just the whole religious aspect of the show plays a very, very big part in the second season.

Q) I was wondering if that was something, because he seems to be maybe more compassionate and — I don’t know, sensitive maybe than his other shipmates a little bit

Aaron: I don’t think — well, I don’t think that one is cold-hearted. I don’t think the Quad sort of — is a place where that creates sensitivity or compassion. It’s a tough, tough world. And as we’ve seen Dutch’s past and also D’Avin’s past, like these guys have been through some really difficult stuff. And John has too but for whatever reason he’s — yes, he is just maybe a little bit more sensitive in whatever ways. So sure, yes. That’s just sort of one of his sort of quality that makes him him.

Q) And then for the group, I know you can’t say if D’Avin has been in the Level 6. But can you answer if being Level 6 makes you sort of a killer?

Aaron: Wouldn’t it be awesome to let go? That would be call.

Q) And I know you hit on this just a bit. But can you tease anything about how the dynamics between your characters are changing this season?

Hannah: I think for Dutch, she’s got of kind let Johnny go and do his thing. But also she’s so super protective of him. There are reasons why Johnny will go and do certain things and not tell her. And then there’s going to be a little risk, like definitely complicated between Dutch and Johnny, the two of them.

Aaron: Yes, yes, for sure. And I saw some really interesting things happening between Dutch and D’Av too, some really interesting sort of — like I would say almost a friendship forming. I mean, I still think that these characters will always have sexual tension and there’s something kind of hot about them, but there’s also something in some of the things that I saw where there’s like a real bond and a real friendship that’s formed. And obviously, they just met in the first season, so that wasn’t there. So to me it’s sort of interesting to see those dynamics play out like these two characters actually get to know each other. They actually spend time together. It’s cool. Like from what I saw, it’s really kind of interesting to see it play out.

Luke: Yes. I think, for D’Avin, I think, his relationship to both of them is defined by this acceptance that you can’t kind of control people.   Because I think his whole life leading up to …he can control people, whether that’s violence or over sex. And here he’s with two people that he can’t control and it’s open, kind of softens him in a very deep way that can make relationships deeper.

Q) As actors, what would you say has been the toughest challenge you face this season?

Hannah: I think, for me as an actor, I mean this and Season 1 as well, I mean, taking on a role that is, it requires a lot of emotional strengths, a lot of physical strengths. And suddenly for this season the stakes are higher and especially with other characters you should close to and other characters you should love and close to. I think this season with stakes being raised so high, that find the emotional strengths that the character has and trying to hide it as well. So it’s that — it’s that conflict within Dutch. It’s yes, that was very tough for me this season.

Aaron: I think, yes Hannah, you’re right about this sort of — or what I think is really difficult about this, you know, doing the show, and I think you touched on it Hannah, are the stakes. There’s no scenes. There’s no time where we’re just kind of sitting around and it’s just chill and it’s really conversational. I think, yes Hannah, you’re right about this sort of — or what I think is really difficult about this, you know, doing the show, and I think you touched on it Hannah, are the stakes. There’s no scenes. There’s no time where we’re just kind of sitting around and it’s just chill and it’s really conversational. I’ve done sort of like horror movies before where — which are really difficult because you’re being chased through the woods, you’re being chased whatever. And it’s like those stakes are high. You have to keep at that sort of place where you’re like, you know, on edge, adrenaline something, adrenaline something. And I feel like this shows sort of like that. There’s not a lot of downtime for the characters to just be relaxed or whatever, they are always on a mission. They’re always on guard. They’re always killing with emotional stuff. They’re always dealing with, you know, problems and warrants. So it’s just — it’s very, very busy. There’s no easy scenes. There’s always something going on. And if it’s not action, if it’s not emotional, well then there’s — and you’re throwing humor in that too, right? So they ask a lot of you. They ask a lot, like would you be able to play all these things, and juggle all these things, which is amazing. It’s an amazing challenge. But it’s definitely a lot tougher than a lot of other acting jobs that I’ve done.

Luke: Yes. I think I can reiterate everything that both of them said. It’s just it’s both the strongest aspect of the show and also the biggest challenge. It’s totally — you’re in a scene and you just punch somebody or shot somebody and then you make a joke. And it’s kind of funny. It’s just, it sometimes it’s hard to know exactly how to play that. And we’re very lucky with great directors who help guide us and who have bigger visions. But yes, you wonder like, “Oh, how serious is this now?” Or, “How much joke it is now?” And realizing the sort of nice edge of those things, you know, humor and pain and you know, drama, are very close to each other.

Q) What can you tell us about Red 17?

Luke: And Red 17 is connected to something that we — is very much in our lives and we find out. I don’t know what else to say. It’s really hard.

Aaron: Yes. We delve into Red 17 right off the bat. I don’t really get into the Red 17 stuff. So if you can wait until July 1st your answers will be forthcoming because yes, we definitely jump into all of that stuff right off the bat.

Q) If Lucy as since maybe manifested in like a human form or even like a robot, how would you guys interact with her?

Aaron: I think it would be very interesting. I mean, you know, we know Lucy. Like she may not have a physical manifestation but her personality would be the same. So how would we interact with her? Probably quite similarly. I think maybe the question would be more, how would Lucy interact with us?

Q) You talked in the past a little bit about having a cast that was big into singing. So I’d love to know whether we’ll hear any characters singing this season.

Aaron: Yes, we will.

Hannah: Yes, we will.

Aaron: Multiple characters sing. Yes.

Q) I just wanted to ask, because one of the strengths of the show, and this question is for everyone. One of the strengths for the show is the culture between the different planets in the Quad. And I’m wondering, if we’re going to get deeper into any of these specific cultures that you can mention, or maybe even cultures beyond the Quad that we might get to see.

Aaron: I think that we definitely — we definitely delve into the politics. I mean that’s still a huge part of Season 2, all the relationships between the planets and sort of the political system that set up. That’s a huge part of it. And the world does open up slightly, I would say, to explore at least the possibility of stuff beyond the Quad, beyond what we’ve seen in just, in the first season and that. So yes, the world is certainly opening up in the second season.

Hannah: Definitely as well you will see historically the cultures politically very different in the past, and how the states of it whereas now and how different it is.

Q) You mentioned earlier about Pree and that we would see a lot more of him and his — I guess his (Dory) is gone. So can you give us any more details about that?

Luke: It might not be done.

Aaron: I would say the thing about — to me, one of the biggest surprises of Season 2 were like, they’re really fun and interesting characters stuff was working with Thom or work with Pree. He gets some really, really cool fun stuff. And Michelle and the writers just really opened up that character and really expanded it in a really, really fun way. There’s more to Pree that meets the eye.

Q) I read something recently where Michelle talked about how you in real life are very light and fun and funny. And she felt like she didn’t serve you very well last season in that way but she’s trying to make your character Dutch have more fun and give you more opportunities to show your fun side this season. Do you feel that happened?

Hannah: Dutch is very witty. And of course, when you’re introduced to Dutch, you’re also introduced — well I mean, with her character, with meeting D’Avin in Season 1 and obviously she had got up his long lost brother, and she’s not very trusting. But the people who she trusts — I’m on the last season yet. There were a lot of times when maybe Dutch wasn’t – like the fun joker. But that Dutch has her fun in her own way. And definitely the Season, Michelle’s Episode 7, yes, there’s so much fun and that there’s so many — one line in that that made me laugh.       So that was a really fun episode. And yes, you will definitely see more of that this season.

Q) What is your favorite part about playing each of your characters? Like what is about your character that you like the most and your favorite part about playing them?

Hannah: The one thing I respect about my character is, I respect and I love — the one thing I love the most about Dutch is her loyalty. As a character is just her loyalty to people that she loves, her friends, she will move mountains. The challenge, and the one thing I love about playing Dutch is — I mean, not necessarily, but the range of emotions as an actor I get to play with one character. And also physically, it’s just, it’s amazing, it’s a dream, and to play a strong character as Dutch, and yes.

Luke: The challenge, and the one thing I love about playing Dutch is — I mean, not necessarily, but the range of emotions as an actor I get to play with one character. And also physically, it’s just, it’s amazing, it’s a dream, and to play a strong character as Dutch, and yes. I like the kind of — so really lack of a better word, and this is a bad word, but the sort of masculinity of him or his ideas or what he thinks that he really is, you know, I like that. And the thing I really like playing D’Avin is he often sort of reacts what got first in his head. And that’s something as a person that I don’t normally do. I overthink things a lot. And it’s quite a joy and a relief to being somebody’s body who doesn’t do that.

Aaron: You guys have a deep answer, I like those. It made me think. I think the one thing that I really like about John and sort of playing John is, there is hope in this guy, you know, like he’s always looking for the positive in people. He’s always sort of — that’s what he’s thriving for. That’s what he wants for other people too. And it’s kind of fun to play a character that that is sort of the basis sometimes for what he is. He is always trying to help people. He’s always trying to make things better for people, and that’s either — maybe not always for himself but for the people that he loves, the people that he cares about. And that’s fun to play a character that cares so deeply about other people. And I think that that sort of ties into something that Hannah was saying about the loyalty too, like it is fun to play a character that is loyal to a fault. I think that there’s something admirable in that. And that’s — so it’s really fun to play character that that’s a huge part of how he is and why he does things.

 

 

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